Present: J. Chambers, G. Auleta, M. Loe, B. Goffe, M. LeBlanc, P.
Tomascak, J. Huonker, J. Carroll, D. Chepko-Sade, M. Morey
Guests: R. Mandel, A. Westfall
Minutes of 12/13/05—approved
Item # 1—Discussion of the proposal to enforce through Banner the
limiting of enrollment in selected classes only to students who
meet stated course prerequisites. A draft of this proposal was developed
and presented by John Huonker.
Rhonda Mandel and Andy Wesfall presented information and interpretations
regarding this topic in relation to SUNY and Oswego policy, practice, and
- Until recently, SUNY policy considered all prerequisites as advisory, not
- Dave Bozak reports that there may be a shift in this opinion that
prerequisites are advisory, but further clarification will have to be sought by
- Currently, 40% of all new students are transfers, which means that any
effort to coordinate/correlate these students’ records into a binding or
restrictive enrollment process would require considerable work—especially in
light of the numbers of regularly enrolled students who also take course work
- Banner is an all or nothing system—it cannot selectively enforce
- The Admissions Office and the Registrar’s Office are piloting a project
that will more accurately incorporate transfer students’ off-campus academic
records into Oswego’s system—which may ultimately make possible the
incorporation of a restrictive pre-registration system. Students
transferring from selected high transfer application schools as OCC, MCC, TC3
and Morrisville are included.
Subsequent discussion explored various aspects of the topic, including: how
other schools (Oneonta) are able to do this—(they started earlier), the
relative costs for incorporating this capability into our current system
(considerable) , the increased staff necessary to take such an action, the
steps that go into such an action, the challenge faced by faculty who teach
classes with meaningful prerequisites, and the need for departments to
reexamine their prerequisites to ensure actual dependencies.
At the next meeting, the Draft will be re-examined in light of the
discussion at this meeting.